Hearing that David “hate-listens” to Korn only made me want to listen to their most recent album more. Even though I can honestly acknowledge that they are the kind of band that has only recorded ONE song in their entire career, and re-record that one song a dozen times with every album, but that is also something that you can say about legendary bands like Motorhead (RIP Lemmy) and the Ramones. Just because their sound is simple and populist doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate it along with metal bands like Meshuggah and Gojira.
It’s the truth. Rock went from worthless to brilliant to even more worthless within maybe seven years or so. Nu Metal was so unbelievably awful, you clearly have no idea.
I lived in the time period you don’t need to tell me I was alive in the 90s. It was just the nature of trends in the music industry. Once you record companies spot a popular sound and then saturate the market with hundreds of imitators. When Metallica and Guns & Roses were selling millions of records you got hair metal. When Nirvana and Soundgarden were selling millions you got grunge. And when Korn and Slipknot were selling millions you got Nu Metal. I assume you must have been 15 in the early nineties since you seem to have nostalgia for the grunge era, but trust me that trend wasn’t any better.
I doubt you *were* alive, or old enough, during the 90s to make any meaningful judgement about the music of that era, because you’re making a very ignorant equivocation between three very different strains of mainstream rock. It wasn’t Soundgarden on-stage at Woodstock 99 when it devolved into rape and chaos. And as Sir Mix-A-Lot himself put it, 80s metal had devolved to where every song was the same shitty E chords being played over and over by men with ass-length blonde hair. When grunge (or alternative or whatever you want to call it) arrived – songs with novel chord changes and expressing something other than the ups and downs of being a pig – it absolutely felt like a revolution, and I’m OK saying that because I know people a generation older than me who felt the same way.
It’s weird getting in this kind of argument on a film criticism site, because criticism dead-ends when you decide that subjective arguments are invalid and all taste is equivalent and based on how old you are at one time or another.
I have a soft spot for Iron Maiden, and I legit enjoy killers, number of the beast, and fear of the dark. But their returns have been diminishing badly since the early 2000s. What I didn’t need was the bloated mess that was book of shadows.
With this episode I think Fadem has met his match in random, loud tangents. Should you ever want to explode your soundboard and listeners’ minds please book the Fadem/Kokkinos episode today.
I am the other person that has seen “A Life Less Ordinary”. I own it an enjoy the occasional rewatch every few years. I think you also missed the opportunity for a smooth segue from “ALLO” to “Ant-Man”: “A Life Less Ordinary” starred Ewan McGregor, Ewan McGregor was in “Down With Love”, “Down With Love” was directed by Payton Reed, Payton Reed arm wrestled and won against Edgar Wright for directing duties on “Ant-Man”.
I think Fadem has met his match in random, loud comments. For an episode that will blow your audiences’ minds (and your sound board) may I propose a Fadem/Kokkinos ’17 megisode!
I am the other person that saw “A Life Less Ordinary”. I love it, own it, and enjoy a rewatch every couple years. I think you may have missed the opportunity for an awesome segue: “A Life Less Ordinary”, Ewan McGregor, “Down With Love”, Peyton Reed…”Ant-Man”
Hearing that David “hate-listens” to Korn only made me want to listen to their most recent album more. Even though I can honestly acknowledge that they are the kind of band that has only recorded ONE song in their entire career, and re-record that one song a dozen times with every album, but that is also something that you can say about legendary bands like Motorhead (RIP Lemmy) and the Ramones. Just because their sound is simple and populist doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate it along with metal bands like Meshuggah and Gojira.
Korn sucks and they haven’t gotten nearly as much hate as they deserve for ruining music in the second half of the 90s
Music hipster.
It’s the truth. Rock went from worthless to brilliant to even more worthless within maybe seven years or so. Nu Metal was so unbelievably awful, you clearly have no idea.
I lived in the time period you don’t need to tell me I was alive in the 90s. It was just the nature of trends in the music industry. Once you record companies spot a popular sound and then saturate the market with hundreds of imitators. When Metallica and Guns & Roses were selling millions of records you got hair metal. When Nirvana and Soundgarden were selling millions you got grunge. And when Korn and Slipknot were selling millions you got Nu Metal. I assume you must have been 15 in the early nineties since you seem to have nostalgia for the grunge era, but trust me that trend wasn’t any better.
I doubt you *were* alive, or old enough, during the 90s to make any meaningful judgement about the music of that era, because you’re making a very ignorant equivocation between three very different strains of mainstream rock. It wasn’t Soundgarden on-stage at Woodstock 99 when it devolved into rape and chaos. And as Sir Mix-A-Lot himself put it, 80s metal had devolved to where every song was the same shitty E chords being played over and over by men with ass-length blonde hair. When grunge (or alternative or whatever you want to call it) arrived – songs with novel chord changes and expressing something other than the ups and downs of being a pig – it absolutely felt like a revolution, and I’m OK saying that because I know people a generation older than me who felt the same way.
It’s weird getting in this kind of argument on a film criticism site, because criticism dead-ends when you decide that subjective arguments are invalid and all taste is equivalent and based on how old you are at one time or another.
you guys are burying the lede here. Iron Maiden’s 2016 effort, “book of shadows,” is also terrible.
Really?! You though “Book of Shadows” was terrible.
I have a soft spot for Iron Maiden, and I legit enjoy killers, number of the beast, and fear of the dark. But their returns have been diminishing badly since the early 2000s. What I didn’t need was the bloated mess that was book of shadows.
So, the upshot of this episode is that David’s other podcast will now be called ” Hate Watch This.”
Bought the book, great eps. You bring the funny
With this episode I think Fadem has met his match in random, loud tangents. Should you ever want to explode your soundboard and listeners’ minds please book the Fadem/Kokkinos episode today.
I am the other person that has seen “A Life Less Ordinary”. I own it an enjoy the occasional rewatch every few years. I think you also missed the opportunity for a smooth segue from “ALLO” to “Ant-Man”: “A Life Less Ordinary” starred Ewan McGregor, Ewan McGregor was in “Down With Love”, “Down With Love” was directed by Payton Reed, Payton Reed arm wrestled and won against Edgar Wright for directing duties on “Ant-Man”.
Fun episode. Go Cardinals!!!
I think Fadem has met his match in random, loud comments. For an episode that will blow your audiences’ minds (and your sound board) may I propose a Fadem/Kokkinos ’17 megisode!
I am the other person that saw “A Life Less Ordinary”. I love it, own it, and enjoy a rewatch every couple years. I think you may have missed the opportunity for an awesome segue: “A Life Less Ordinary”, Ewan McGregor, “Down With Love”, Peyton Reed…”Ant-Man”
Funny ep, Go Cardinals!