Yeah, I really like them together. Which is funny since I didn’t care for either of them in the beginning. But me, I’m still a Gunnar/Scarlett guy (though the writers need to get their act together when it comes to Gunnar). Then Deacon.
I would really love to be a fly on the wall in that writing room (e.g., “…and then! the pig’s blood!”; “Do you think we could get Wyclef Jean on set to pretend to like this terrible song?”). The show has become SCANDAL but in Tennessee instead of D.C.
I whole-heartedly agree on the IMDb app being annoying when you can’t see which specific episodes of a TV show someone is in. That has irked me on several occasions. You’re not alone, David.
You guys have danced around your individual release date policies regarding year-qualification for your Top Ten lists since you started the show and as someone who has their head deep in these kinds of things, I’d like to quite amicably tell you what your policies are. For you. I promise it isn’t with a hint of disdain or rudeness. Just wanting to help you guys give concrete definitions for your personal cinephilic rules (everyone’s are disparate and special) and perhaps provide some helpful resources, especially since Tyler voiced some confusion on the subject in this episode.
David, you go by world premiere date for your lists. This is the first time the film has screened for public viewing by all accounts anywhere—film festival, a premiere in a foreign country, limited week-long engagement, etc. (For the record, this Letterboxd’s style too.)
Tyler, your lists are dictated by U.S. theatrical premiere of a week or more. This is what I go by as well. Sometimes it’s the same as David’s criteria and other times it differs, just depending a film’s completely idiosyncratic release history. There can even be a gap spanning years; Lee Chang-dong’s (wonderful) Secret Sunshine, for example, premiered in South Korea and at Cannes in 2007 (thus qualifying it for David’s list that year) but wouldn’t see a U.S. release until December of 2010, thus being a 2010 film for Tyler and I.
For both of your purposes I’ve found the IMDb Release Info pages are the best source to look up an individual movie. This can be accessed directly below a film’s title by clicking the linked text on the far right (rating | length | genre | release info) — and yes, David, this is a feature unavailable on anything but the desktop mode of IMDb, unfortunately. The first date on a given list would apply for David’s lists but Tyler would have to scroll down to the first date marked U.S. that isn’t a film festival or special purpose screening.
Also, strictly for Tyler’s lists, a popular resource among critics is Mike D’Angelo’s annually tabulated list of every film released for the first time for a week or more in New York City (where the most amount of films are released) during a given year. Here is 2014’s iteration, which hit a record-breaking 1000 movies and link text is the page where you can access every year Mike’s done this, going back to ’98. I find this to be a fairly thorough and accurate resource, but bear in mind that it’s NYC-only; every year I find there are a few films released in L.A. or another random city for a week that Mike and others who swear by the list don’t count but that which I see no reason not to—in 2014 two such titles were Cronenberg’s Maps to the Stars and Xavier Dolan’s Mommy.
Anyway, I hope you two aren’t offended by my attitude or efforts here; I did it completely out of a passion for classifying and organizing the art form that we all hold so dearly, and because I’m such an overly obsessive nut.
Charles
P.S.—please see James Gray’s The Immigrant, Ramon Zürcher’s The Strange Little Cat, and the Dardennes’s Two Days, One Night before making your 2014 lists. If you need assistance acquiring copies, I can help. And David, seek out Under the Skin; you’ll love it.
Der Samurai is an upcoming German horror film with a cool LGBT-twist (also wolf-themed). Check it out if/when you get the chance.
just watched the trailer, I’ll have to check that out!
I still can’t figure out if David likes Nashville ironically or not.
I don’t waste a lot of time enjoying things “ironically.” I either enjoy it or I don’t. I love Nashville so they’re doing something right.
– David
Right on. It’s honestly my favorite show on TV right now, for purely personal reasons. One of them being that I live there.
Also, who’s your favorite character?
Juliette/Avery.
– David
Yeah, I really like them together. Which is funny since I didn’t care for either of them in the beginning. But me, I’m still a Gunnar/Scarlett guy (though the writers need to get their act together when it comes to Gunnar). Then Deacon.
I would really love to be a fly on the wall in that writing room (e.g., “…and then! the pig’s blood!”; “Do you think we could get Wyclef Jean on set to pretend to like this terrible song?”). The show has become SCANDAL but in Tennessee instead of D.C.
I whole-heartedly agree on the IMDb app being annoying when you can’t see which specific episodes of a TV show someone is in. That has irked me on several occasions. You’re not alone, David.
Hey Tyler and David,
You guys have danced around your individual release date policies regarding year-qualification for your Top Ten lists since you started the show and as someone who has their head deep in these kinds of things, I’d like to quite amicably tell you what your policies are. For you. I promise it isn’t with a hint of disdain or rudeness. Just wanting to help you guys give concrete definitions for your personal cinephilic rules (everyone’s are disparate and special) and perhaps provide some helpful resources, especially since Tyler voiced some confusion on the subject in this episode.
David, you go by world premiere date for your lists. This is the first time the film has screened for public viewing by all accounts anywhere—film festival, a premiere in a foreign country, limited week-long engagement, etc. (For the record, this Letterboxd’s style too.)
Tyler, your lists are dictated by U.S. theatrical premiere of a week or more. This is what I go by as well. Sometimes it’s the same as David’s criteria and other times it differs, just depending a film’s completely idiosyncratic release history. There can even be a gap spanning years; Lee Chang-dong’s (wonderful) Secret Sunshine, for example, premiered in South Korea and at Cannes in 2007 (thus qualifying it for David’s list that year) but wouldn’t see a U.S. release until December of 2010, thus being a 2010 film for Tyler and I.
For both of your purposes I’ve found the IMDb Release Info pages are the best source to look up an individual movie. This can be accessed directly below a film’s title by clicking the linked text on the far right (rating | length | genre | release info) — and yes, David, this is a feature unavailable on anything but the desktop mode of IMDb, unfortunately. The first date on a given list would apply for David’s lists but Tyler would have to scroll down to the first date marked U.S. that isn’t a film festival or special purpose screening.
Also, strictly for Tyler’s lists, a popular resource among critics is Mike D’Angelo’s annually tabulated list of every film released for the first time for a week or more in New York City (where the most amount of films are released) during a given year. Here is 2014’s iteration, which hit a record-breaking 1000 movies and link text is the page where you can access every year Mike’s done this, going back to ’98. I find this to be a fairly thorough and accurate resource, but bear in mind that it’s NYC-only; every year I find there are a few films released in L.A. or another random city for a week that Mike and others who swear by the list don’t count but that which I see no reason not to—in 2014 two such titles were Cronenberg’s Maps to the Stars and Xavier Dolan’s Mommy.
Anyway, I hope you two aren’t offended by my attitude or efforts here; I did it completely out of a passion for classifying and organizing the art form that we all hold so dearly, and because I’m such an overly obsessive nut.
Charles
P.S.—please see James Gray’s The Immigrant, Ramon Zürcher’s The Strange Little Cat, and the Dardennes’s Two Days, One Night before making your 2014 lists. If you need assistance acquiring copies, I can help. And David, seek out Under the Skin; you’ll love it.