Great episode. I, for one, love when Josh is on. He has such a wealth of knowledge about film that I always walk away with some new movies to check out.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Andrew Jarecki is pretty sleazy. I haven’t yet seen The Jynx but I did recently watch Capturing the Friedmans. It is a very well made, captivating movie but if you look into just how much information Jarecki purposefully leaves out in order to add doubt to a pretty straightforward case, it’s kind of upsetting. He clearly is less interested in the journalistic aspects of documentary filmmaking and is much more focused on crafting a compelling story.
This episode reminded me how much I need to re-watch the original Paradise Lost and then complete the rest of the WM3 docs. An interesting accompaniment to these films might be a doc about another “80s metal on trial” case called Dream Deceivers: The Story of James Vance vs Judas Priest. Sad story (go figure) about 2 teens who attempt suicide with a shotgun, one is ‘successful’ and one isn’t. They were fans of the band. The parents of the surviving kid then sue Judas Priest for sending them ‘messages’ through their music. The film goes into the back story of the teens, the environment they grew up in, and eventually the trial of the band. Interesting document on the metal hysteria of the 80s, kinda tangential to the topic but a fascinating look at the legal system. The surviving teen is horribly disfigured so be warned, not for the weak.
Oh man I remember hearing about the case on MTV as a little kid, it made me wanna listen to Judas Priest, but also scared to hear it, but also i thought it was bullshit I think. I gotta see that one.
All those other examples you listed are Greek but quadrilogy is derived from Latin. The Greek – and therefore more consistent, wider used and preferred – term for a group of four works is tetralogy.
Great episode. I, for one, love when Josh is on. He has such a wealth of knowledge about film that I always walk away with some new movies to check out.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Andrew Jarecki is pretty sleazy. I haven’t yet seen The Jynx but I did recently watch Capturing the Friedmans. It is a very well made, captivating movie but if you look into just how much information Jarecki purposefully leaves out in order to add doubt to a pretty straightforward case, it’s kind of upsetting. He clearly is less interested in the journalistic aspects of documentary filmmaking and is much more focused on crafting a compelling story.
This episode reminded me how much I need to re-watch the original Paradise Lost and then complete the rest of the WM3 docs. An interesting accompaniment to these films might be a doc about another “80s metal on trial” case called Dream Deceivers: The Story of James Vance vs Judas Priest. Sad story (go figure) about 2 teens who attempt suicide with a shotgun, one is ‘successful’ and one isn’t. They were fans of the band. The parents of the surviving kid then sue Judas Priest for sending them ‘messages’ through their music. The film goes into the back story of the teens, the environment they grew up in, and eventually the trial of the band. Interesting document on the metal hysteria of the 80s, kinda tangential to the topic but a fascinating look at the legal system. The surviving teen is horribly disfigured so be warned, not for the weak.
Love when Josh is on. NOT BORING!
Oh, man! I saw Dream Deceivers at Cinefamily years ago on a double bill with Heavy Metal Parking Lot. I completely forgot that I’d seen it.
– David
Oh man I remember hearing about the case on MTV as a little kid, it made me wanna listen to Judas Priest, but also scared to hear it, but also i thought it was bullshit I think. I gotta see that one.
Quadrilogy is a word. It’s a series of four parts. There is also trilogy, pentalogy, hexalogy, heptalogy, octalogy etc.
All those other examples you listed are Greek but quadrilogy is derived from Latin. The Greek – and therefore more consistent, wider used and preferred – term for a group of four works is tetralogy.
– David