Patreon: June 2022 TV Journal
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The June 2022 TV journal includes discussion of Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty, The Keepers, My Brilliant Friend, Atlanta, The Great North, Better Things, Better Call Saul, London Spy, Bridgerton and more!
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Battleship Pretension is a film discussion show and a film review website founded by Tyler Smith and David Bax. Beginning in March 2007, Battleship Pretension the show (known to fans simply as “BP”) embodies the type of laidback, free-flowing conversations had by lovers of film around the world. Battleship Pretension the website is dedicated to being a destination for those seeking worthwhile opinions on current releases, be they foreign, independent, studio pictures, theatrical, home video releases, etc. From its meager beginnings in Los Angeles, Battleship Pretension has amassed a worldwide audience and readership. From Germany to Korea to Australia, people have tuned in to share in Tyler and David’s love of film. As Battleship Pretension’s following continues to grow, the purpose remains the same: Reach out to the international cinephile community, invite them to join in the discussion and perhaps even start one of their own.
I actually think Saul is easily better than BB and it’s not much of a contest. What were iconic moments of BB at the time, like “say my name” and “I’m the one who knocks” just don’t land now, they’re even kind of cringey to me. There were also a lot of dubious “back-engineered” plotlines in BB, like the poisoning of the kid…the writers said they’d deliberately back themselves in a corner and then have to invent a way out of it, and you can tell because it often barely holds together. It’s only through the quality of the production and the acting that you accept it. That may still happen on Saul but they just seem way better at it now, the seams don’t show nearly as much. And overall, Saul is just examining its characters through such a finer lens. I feel like there’s a rich subtext much of the time (especially with Kim) whereas BB felt fairly surface-level. I don’t know what “dumb shit” David was referring to in Saul but I haven’t really found myself thinking that
The “dumb shit” is exactly what you’re describing, the cringey lines and back-engineered plots. Even if they are better at it, that’s only because they fall back on it so often. Characterwise, I’m with you. Jimmy and Kim are both better than pretty much any characters on BB. But I liked the way the older show was still figuring things out. Especially aesthetically, there were still surprises. Now the look of the show is just what it is.
– David