Episode 865: Defining the New Golden Age of American Television

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  1. TJ says:

    no mention of Curb?

    I love The Americans and while it’s not a comedy I definitely found humor at times (eg the Clarke/Martha relationship could be wryly funny in an “oh no!” kinda way). But the show never felt dour, I had a blast watching it

    • Battleship Pretension says:

      I was thinking about Curb. I just never found a way to bring it up. I think it definitely counts, especially as a very different take on the “difficult men” phenomenon of the new golden age.

      – David

  2. FictionIsntReal says:

    The fifth season of Game of Thrones is the worst. The later seasons are better not because the writing returned to its earlier quality, but because it leaned into big-budget spectacle, without embarassing action scenes like the attempted kidnapping of Myrcella in Dorne.

    Halt & Catch Fire may have been better in its later than earlier seasons, but even at its best it was never that good. Hannibal was a better show, but the third season was so bad it retroactively made the previous seasons worse.

    I tried watching the first couple seasons of Better Things because people kept insisting it’s great, but it turned out Atlanta was the true successor to Louie (that I was late to because I wasn’t a fan of Community or anything else Glover has done).

    Speaking of “difficult men”, I recall there was a book by that title about the showrunners of the golden age. Mostly the “three Davids” (Chase, Milch, Simon), but Vince Gilligan was also there as an exception: an easy-going guy everybody seems to like. Perhaps fitting for you to consider the golden age to end with his show. I’ve heard others say that golden age had been defined by antihero dramas focusing on difficult men, which transitioned into ensemble shows (with Mad Men shifting during its run away from a focus on antihero Don Draper to the larger cast, and H&CF also imitating MM in that way).

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